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why am i interested in flip phones

every time i talk about flip phones (and this has been going on for years, not just recently) people start going “yeah yeah yeah let's go back i want my nokia back” and i do not understand why this happens. well i do but the point is that i would never even say it because i hated flip phones

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in 2002 i had one just like everyone else, and i considered it a “dumbphone” even before smartphones existed. like, sure, as far as making phone calls went, they worked great. they were an obvious evolution from the motorola startac, smaller and more convenient, so i had no beef there. texting was an interesting novelty which i had little use for, particularly in the days where you paid egregious rates per-text, but as an outgrowth of the concept of paging i understood it too.

assuming you wanted a device for making phone calls and sending tiny messages, flip phones were fine, it's just that i didn't want to do those things. i wanted to do the things i do now, on a smartphone, and i wanted a smartphone in order to do them.

long before the iphone existed, long before i'd even touched a PDA, i wanted a smartphone in exactly the form they now have. i am not claiming to be precocious or clairvoyant, it just… wasn't that big a leap. many people have noticed that smartphones got invented about a dozen times throughout the early 20th century in science fiction; star trek did it, i think dick tracy did it, it just kept happening, and it's because it's an incredibly obvious idea. it's so obvious that i wonder if anyone even succeeded at patenting the basic elements; i doubt it, otherwise android probably wouldn't exist.

if you look at the human hand and the human eye and then think about the concept of digital information, moments later you will find yourself holding a drawing of a smartphone, because it's just a dead-simple idea. it is a box designed to nestle in the palm, which can display arbitrary information, and it's sized such that an average human thumb can just about reach across its surface. i, too, imagined this device long before it existed, and was frustrated that i couldn't have one.

once i learned about PDAs, i looked into them ferociously, and immediately became disappointed. have you used palmos? have you used windows mobile? they are bad, clunky, unfortunate things that don't actually deliver the level of information manipulation that i wanted even 22 years ago. the fact that nothing yet existed that could do what we can now do was not important to me; i could see where the wind was blowing, i knew what was going to BECOME possible, and if i couldn't have it yet, i preferred to have nothing instead of a stopgap.

so, once the iphone came along, i aimed myself at it like a heat seeking god damn missile. when a friend upgraded and ditched their 2G, i snapped up that scratched and chipped motherfucker with such gusto that i must have looked like the proverbial convict at the crack in the gas chamber door. hm. is it proverbial if i have no idea where it came from or if anyone else ever says that? anyway, i had been down bad and desperate for almost ten years, so when i got this thing i devoured it like my last god damned meal. huh. another death row allegory. curious

the 2G had been upgraded to ios 2 or 3 or whatever one added real apps. it was slow as molasses. it had a 320×480 screen. it was already unable to run some of the new stuff in the app store. but it was right, it was objectively correct, it was the thing that was supposed to exist, and i finally had it, and i never let it out of my sight ever again because it filled in every single gap in my electronic life. which, at this point in my existence, was simply my entire life.


all this to say: i am a disciple of the smartphone, and a full-contact user. “full-contact” meaning that i use every single part of the animal; nothing goes to waste.

i rocked iphones from the 2G up through the 5, then i got a oneplus one and immediately converted to android because - at that time - it was like flipping a switch from “fisher price My First Portable Supercomputer” to “linux in your pocket” and, for all the hate i give linux (and i give it a lot) i have immense respect for what it used to represent, namely, the platform for people who know what they're doing and are willing to accept the consequences if it turns out that's not true.

this distinction has, admittedly, softened considerably over time. for instance, apple added the ability to manipulate arbitrary files on iphones a few years ago, though i personally still find it clunky and awkward. it feels like going into a five star restaurant and asking for a grilled cheese: even if they make it for you, you're going to get stinkeye the whole time. this is how i feel about the entire apple ecosystem, in fact. on paper it can do anything, but if you want to do something that apple wouldn't like to see happening in one of their TV ads, the UI will make sure you feel like an unwanted guest who is just being tolerated. you aren't exactly unwelcome, but you should probably just use the bathroom, buy a cola at the bar as an unspoken apology, drink two sips, then leave as quietly as possible so everyone can start forgetting the time they had to see someone beneath their status.

but back in 2011 or whenever, android was still the only platform for the absolute jerkoff who wanted to download a ZIP, extract the contents, edit them, then copy them to a USB drive, entirely on their fucking phone. i did, and i still do this kind of bullshit from time to time. not every day, not every week, but often enough that i wouldn't be caught dead with a device that couldn't handle it. and the thing is, regardless of the specific platform, smartphones are just amazing. i am in continuous awe that i am carrying a device in my pocket at all times that can be used to SSH into a server, remote desktop into a windows PC, or create UEFI linux install media literally singlehandedly, as in, using only one hand.

i have used my phone to rip a floppy disk before. earlier today, i paired it via bluetooth to a phone from 2004 in order to sideload a java game, and then i used it to find out if the UPS store was still open or if i'd be wasting a trip heading over there. my phone is simply a hyperportable laptop with a weird UI, and it's so fucking cool that i can own that, so when people say they want to go back to flip phones, i'm just… baffled.

i mean. i'm not really, i'm just saying that for effect, i know what's actually going on. nobody ACTUALLY wants to go back, because if you wanted to, you would. you can still use a flip phone from 15 years ago, but also you can just buy a new one because they still make them. they never stopped. there has never been a time since like 2005 when you couldn't buy a flip phone for $40. walmart is selling them right now for $19.95 in fact. you can just buy one if you want! but you don't, actually!

i mean what would you do with it? make phone calls? i haven't met anyone in over a decade who didn't regard a ringing cellphone the way one would regard a moist paper bag abandoned on a bus seat that is emitting a white mist, so i know you aren't looking to tote around a gadget just for that. text on it? when's the last time you sent a text, an actual SMS, and not an IM on discord or telegram or whatever? the purpose of texting is to get yelled at by relatives, bosses and landlords. everyone you actually trust you talk to online, so i know you don't want to downgrade from “little box that has all my friends in it :)” to “little box whose sole purpose is to let collections people and homophobic aunts bother me.”

also when's the last time you composed text on a dialpad? people complain about touchscreen keyboards and yeah, no, i get it, but when is the last time you texted on a dialpad? things could be, and were, much worse.


when people say they want a flip phone again, what they usually mean (as with most nostalgia) is that they want to be young again, or at least, they want to return to a time when they felt like the world was simpler. the trick with this is that the world was never simple. every generation ends up feeling exactly the way you do right now, after they've been through enough “months that last for years.” that is not a new phenomenon, The Cool Zone has been around forever.

imagine living through the cuban missile crisis or watergate. you spend weeks or months constantly at high stress, and then when it's “over”, it's not over. the ramifications just keep going and going, and you can't un-learn what you've learned, so it's now a part of the algebra for every single thought you have about the world, forever. inevitably, you will pine for anything that reminds you of the time before you had these awful revelations. the fact that the world still sucked doesn't matter, because you didn't know that. ignorance is bliss, and losing yourself in nostalgia is the closest you can get. letting yourself enjoy a sony clie

again, if i'm wrong, prove me wrong: throw out your smartphone and buy a $20 walmart special. i know you won't, because you rightfully consider it absurd to not be able to pull up home depot's website in your car to see if something's in stock before driving across town just to get disappointed and waste 40 minutes. we can crow all we want about being “addicted” to the internet or apps or whatever but if you wanted to stop, you'd just not install them. you aren't staying in bed for three hours in the morning flipping through tiktok because it's a hypnosis program made by some big mind-controlling meanie, it's because you aren't looking forward to getting up. you know what people did in the 80s when they felt like there was no point in getting out of bed because it's all downhill after that? they stayed in bed and did nothing at all. you're just filling the empty space with something instead of nothing.

and yeah, i know there's other downsides to The Black Rectangle being the default option. everyone misses tiny keyboards, but smartphones are a land of compromises, and every single one of them was a necessary part of the pursuit of functionality. every time phones have gotten larger and the bezel has shrunk, i have rubbed my hands together and giggled, because i'm the guy with the SICKOS shirt. i am a full-contact user who wants the largest possible amount of screen real estate and happens to have huge hands, so i hated how tiny the iphone 5 was, and i hate how tiny most smartphones still feel in my hands. but i do understand that this doesn't work for everyone and i sympathize.

it goes completely without saying that the blind pursuit of raw functionality is an injustice that has left many people behind. i have a friend who went FAR out of her way to buy one of the precious few semi-modern android phones with a physical keyboard, and she loves it, despite recognizing how much of a disadvantage it puts her at in some ways. her phone is weird, and limiting, and the screen is tiny, but it's what she needs. i really, really, really wish that our economic system wasn't allergic to variety, because more phones like that should exist. hell, they should make smartphones with keyboards and then a full size portrait screen on top. a phone that's like 12“ tall - i know countless people who would rock it. fuck capitalism. anyway


in summary, i like smartphones. i like where things have ended up, and this is all working out for me, the protagonist of reality. i wish it worked out for more people, but personally i don't want anything all that different from what i'm getting. well, they should put more physical buttons on the phones, THAT'S just free real estate, but otherwise i'm pretty happy and i have no desire at all to RETVRN.

the reason i am dicking with flip phones is because i'm curious about the software situation, a thing i missed out on in its day. J2ME games are a window into a segment of the human experience that i (and probably most nerds) was not part of, partly by choice, partly due to privilege. to wit, when i looked at my Cingular flip phone in 2004 and saw that it could, theoretically, deliver a copy of Bejeweled to me, i reacted with a mix of disinterest and disgust.

disinterest, because i had access to a high powered PC with a huge screen at home, and (being unemployed and supported by my family) nothing stopped me from spending many hours there using it.

disgust, because i saw that PC version as the objectively correct and ideal version of the game, and knew that the flip-phone version would be heavily compromised in comparison. lower resolution, poorer quality sound effects, rougher inputs, fewer stages, etc.

all true, as it turns out - mobile bejeweled is worse than any desktop version, objectively. and yet, those things shouldn't have invalidated Bejeweled For Phones in my eyes. as a shitty teen i regarded it as a scam, or at least a silly waste of money: “if you're going to play a game, do it right. either get a PC or a decent handheld console.” i did not have a worldview broad enough to imagine a person who

  • could not afford a PC, or a second handheld device
  • or was rarely home
  • or who spent a lot of time on public transit
  • or who just simply didn't see any need to restrict their Bejeweling to an environment where they could run it on an enormous monitor at 60fps.

part of the maturing of my outlook on life has been to accept that i, like most nerds, am a picky elitist, and that most people literally cannot perceive many of the things that i consider disappointing compromises, or if they can, they simply do not care.

and sure enough, when i posted the clip of J2ME Pac-Man on my YT side channel the other day, a couple dozen people commented immediately, citing various flip phone games that they straight up adored and would like to play again. my elitism was, clearly and unsurprisingly, factually wrong. so i am redressing that, and in the process learning that there was meat on this bone, and had i been a bit less stuck up back in 2006, i could have enjoyed it.

Discussion

Kalium 2024/11/23 10:37

Oh exactly this. I feel this way about removing optical disk drives from laptops. People want them back despite it being a horrible waste of space in a space-constrained device! Because… you listen to music CD's in your laptop? No, every human since 2008 who wanted a music CD on their laptop just ripped it to MP3. You want it back because you associate disk drives in laptops with a time when you ripped music from a CD and has fun with it. It's objectively correct to replace that with a nice thin and light laptop with more battery and cooling.

Xuelder 2024/11/04 17:10

I'm one of those people who really wish they still had a keyboard phone, or even a UMPC. I wish that blackberry kept making phones, cause I would buy one in a heartbeat.

Anyways, what really interested me in this article was the segment about games on pre smart phones. During the pandemic a bunch of us in the New Orleans game dev scene got obsessed with looking at old games for all the pre iPhone era phones, specifically the “port” of Bioshock to J2ME; it looks like a Haunted PSOne Game before it became the craze.

kyle 2024/11/01 21:10

Your android smartphone escapades are at once heartening and confusing because i would also like to be that guy - but every attempt ends in failure

i look at my android phone and decide to connect to my file server to watch a cartoon stored there. i look at the icons. they are all circles now because the 2020s design trend is to make icons indistinguishable from each other. inside the circles are indistinct shapes which explain nothing, so i read the labels one by one. this is slow. luckily mine is a google pixel 7a by google an alphabet company, so they put a non-removable google search box on the screen so you can google for your own apps because you can't distingush the icons because they are all circles. so i google “files” and get a file browser which cannot connect to file servers unless it is google's google drive by google. so i back out of that and decide i am going to have to install an app for that. so again i google the contents of my own phone for “app store”, but this gives me nothing, because the app store for apps is not called app store. it's actually called play store, even though it does not play things (it might let me buy things that play things i suppose). i search for “SMB” and am presented with a lot of things which claim to “contain ads”, or “contain in-app purchases” or both. they all look vaguely like they are going to sell my bank details to the albanian mafia. I choose one called “file manager+” and then i don't need it anymore because It's now time to wipe my ass and flush and walk back to the big computer. two months later one of the circular icons i stare at and can't recognize has a label under it called “File Ma…” and i frown.

I am 31 years old and now i understand why it is our parents watch standard definition version of channels with the wrong aspect ratio and motion smoothing.

cathode ray dude 2024/11/01 21:27

this is the exact experience I have had. It is a big miserable shit show of untrustworthy, fragile bullshit, and the sole draw is that if you put in enough time and effort and research you might be able to come up with something that does what you want. The UI will never be good, but if you find something that works for you, you may be able to learn it, and there's a good chance it will continue to work for you for a very long time.

All media players on Android do not work acceptably, I concede this up front. That said, VLC (I'll say four hail marys) seems to have functional built in SMB support - The problem is just that VLC is dog shit and randomly decides that it's not going to play files or that it's going to stop playing them in the middle and there's not much you can do about it other than crash it and start from scratch.

For all other file transfer purposes, what made it all come together for me was an app called Solid Explorer, which has been around for some time, seems to be trustworthy, and (this, to me, is crucial) actually comes in a paid version. It is actually the only mobile app I properly like. It has a two-pane design, sort of like midnight commander except you have to flip back and forth between them due to screen real estate limitations, it intrinsically supports an enormous variety of file sharing protocols including a very solid SMB, the UI for bulk selecting files is fantastic, the UI for transfer status and conflict resolution is outstanding, and I have never once had a transfer inexplicably stop in the middle, it does everything I ask it to do. It's also very good at managing local storage, USB drives, etc and I simply could not live without it.

it tremendously sucks that there is no way to map a network share in a way that every app can see; This should simply be built into the OS. however, since the two things I ever want to do are “play a file” (which VLC handles mediocrely) or “copy a file” (which Solid Explorer handles incredibly well), I have mercifully achieved what I need. don't get it twisted: I don't think the smartphone experience is every GOOD, but it makes it possible for me to do things I really want to do, so I grit my teeth and choke down the sobs while I do them. i would not expect anyone else to put up with any of this, but that's just how it's always been with computers, If you want the advanced functionality, you're going to have a bad time, every time, so when you review the tools that make that functionality possible, there's a strong subtext that the reader should already be in the mindset that nothing they're about to do will be reasonable or easy.

it's the 1999 Linux experience again, except the goalposts have shifted. “copy some files from another computer” shouldn't be the equivalent of “recompile your kernel and windowing system to allow two mouse cursors on the same screen” but. well. i don't makes the rules i just lives by em

kyle 2024/11/01 22:42

my VLC android experience is pulling my phone out of my pocket several times a shift because the music has paused for no reason, getting more aggravated every time

later i found out that this was because i dared to use headphones that have wires on them. apparently this is depreciated, unsupported use, and that instead each ear should contain a battery powered computer wirelessly networked the distance between my head and jeans pocket

maemo 2024/11/26 08:16
and that instead each ear should contain a battery powered computer wirelessly networked the distance between my head and jeans pocket

i own a pair of said battery powered computers for receiving beams from my usb-c rectangle with a mediatek (they are actually from the fruit company as well), but i only have two real reasons to use them

1) being that i haven't been able to make the headphone jack work 100% of the way on the hackintosh setup on my t480 and

2) to prepare for the inevitable when my current phone breaks and i finally lose 3.5mm plug privileges and i have to get a 20:9 rectangle from this decade lol

grawity 2024/10/28 00:28

oh man I remember using an FTP client on my phone to download stuff from etext dot org back when it still existed. I used to read whole books as .txt files through j2me file manager apps.

there were definitely J2ME games that I loved, yes (somehow I have never had a game console of any type or kind in my life, it was either shared family PC or pirated J2ME stuff), but my main uses of a phone were 1) web browsing using opera mini, 2) reading old text files through a file manager app, 3) music (and later, when phones hit 320×240, occasional movies and porn), 4) games; in that order.

my main requirements for a “smart phone” are 1) it has a file manager (preferably built-in although I ended up installing MobyExplorer and five others anyway), 2) tie between “it can switch apps” and “it can copy/paste”, which means that my W760i was a smart phone while its contemporary iPhones were not (the second-hand iPhone 6 that I carry around as a backup iPod has some basic file management but distinctly nowhere near Android).

Sony-Ericsson phones are particularly good for J2ME - they support a lot of the optional extensions (such as file management! that was an optional extension, JSR-75) and more importantly, *they are Nokia-compatible* in that they can run applets “made for Nokia” without any problems.

more specifically, without “special key” problems, because there was apparently no standard in J2ME for the key codes that the non-basic-dialpad buttons send – so e.g. the Left Soft Key on one device is the same as D-Pad Right on another device. many games had “Nokia”, “Motorola”, “Samsung” etc etc versions for (in large part) that reason. I used to live in the Opera Mini forums back in the day – Opera Mini is a whole topic on its own – and they had multiple threads and even a special jar that people could run, press all the buttons, then report back and contribute yet another special case

(incidentally, alongside Moby Explorer, the other main file manager I used during the last few years of W760i was… a hacked version of Opera Mini. someone took the 2.x jar and added support for multiple tabs, but also added file management for some reason)

another interesting thing about the W760i (well, the entire series/platform I assume), is that it let you *minimize* J2ME apps. few, if any, other phones I've seen offer this feature; you open a game, play it, close it, it gets unceremoniously killed. Sony-Ericsson phones let you minimize one app and switch to another, the W760i even had a whole dedicated button for that purpose. (the apps still got unceremoniously killed in case of Not Enough Memory, because automatic state save/load wasn't a thing until iPhone.) related to that, it had Skype, and distinctly from the other J2ME chat apps (there was an ICQ app, an IRC app, etc), it somehow supported running Skype in background, draining your battery for the constant GPRS connection and all, which was… really surprising to me, and I don't think I've seen this literally anywhere else among Java phones.

not to mention, the W760i – despite being a Walkman™ branded phone – required a proprietary dongle in order to connect 3.5mm headphones. truly, it was miles ahead of the iPhone of its era.

cathode ray dude 2024/10/28 13:53

this is all absolutely fascinating shit that i knew nothing about, thank you so much. it makes so much sense that the buttons weren't standardized, i must have just gotten lucky with everything i've tried so far. also it's slaying me that i just accidentally grabbed one of the best phones for J2MEing; i had noticed that it supported minimizing and thought that was a common feature, but i'm not surprised to learn it isn't, haha

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